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Post by spikespiegel on May 5, 2014 7:45:37 GMT -5
This is the thread we are going to use for some ideas on Battle Tactics. Also I stumbled across a great video discussing Battle Instances. If you hate the time I would definitely suggest giving it a watch.
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Post by spikespiegel on May 5, 2014 9:03:09 GMT -5
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Post by spikespiegel on May 5, 2014 19:58:51 GMT -5
Just so you guys know I would like some feedback on this. I have shown our support for this for the time being, but I would like to hear what everyone thinks about the plans outlined in the thread posted above.
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Post by gingerfluff on May 5, 2014 21:14:52 GMT -5
Personally, I think joining up with other pirate organizations and taking a bengal would be a great idea. I'll list the pros and cons.
Pros:
- Literally a traveling black market for us to unload (or buy) our goods, whether they range from scrap taken off of a UEE cruiser or slaves. This allows easy access for anything we can buy or sell on the black market.
- Protection from bounty hunters/police/navy/etc, the original poster, and I quote, said: "Any outlaw with a bounty on their head is welcome to seek refuge aboard the mothership. They will be under my (our) protection." I'm especially excited about this pro, since we will literally have a 'home' to go to if we're in trouble.
Cons:
- This idea is completely based on the fact that anarchy will rule over an organized UEE force, because we have a bengal and anyone who gets in our way will have their ship's hull melted down and sold for scrap. Everyone will be fighting over 'who gets to pilot it', as it's a fact that nobody wants to end up being the 'cook' (dogmeat) of the ship, and by the time the shooting is over on the ship, some pro-UEE PMC will be on our tail.
- Let's say the idea does work, and we have everyone in a position to defend the ship. The market is thriving and the hanger is filled with the ships of our pirate 'friends'. A bounty hunter/UEE agent can easily sneak on by simply joining a pirate organization and coming onto the bengal. What is stopping him, let's say, bombing anything on board? What pirate really wants to stand around and guard the ships when he could be out, oh, pirating? A fix though, is to not leave anything valuable on the bengal. That'll be hard when you have to park your ship in the hanger.
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Post by kalroth on May 6, 2014 0:36:44 GMT -5
You makes some really good points there gingerfluff. I think that this concept become much more viable if only certain pirate orgs have the clearance to crew or dock on the carrier. Like a type of pirate super alliance. Others would be free to conduct their business near the ship benefiting from the sheer strength of numbers. SCUM, for example, I do not trust at all. I wouldn't put it past them to sell us out to the UEE for some credits. Although, If this mobile crime base does become a effective means for illegal commerce, then I think that alone is reason enough for other pirates to want to defend it. Really all comes down to the individual players and there is no telling what can happen until we try. I say we keep this option open as a possibility.
*edit* After reading the plan in more depth and all of the following posts on that thread I strongly suggest that if we decide to go in on this venture we MUST make it clear that we are the big fish here. Nothing happens on that ship without us knowing and our leadership is a part of any major decisions. Seems like some people could get power drunk or reckless very quickly. I propose that we make a shadow counsel within the orgs trying for this plan in order to keep things from getting out of hand. Democracy is nice, but I'd feel a lot better if it was a democracy we had control over.
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Post by spikespiegel on May 6, 2014 12:05:03 GMT -5
Definitely. I think we need to at least have a group of leaders outside of the so called "democracy" to make the final decisions. And yes, this idea is based on the fact we can work together when we are on the Bengal. However it specifically states on there that if 2 factions are having "issues" they can settle it outside of the Bengal.
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Post by spikespiegel on May 6, 2014 12:05:48 GMT -5
That it for feedback? Or does anyone have anything else to say? Again.. I am REALLY looking for feedback here. That means you, the person reading this right now, what do you think?
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Post by rexregis on May 6, 2014 20:40:24 GMT -5
i like the idea would be nice to have somewhere to sell borrowed ships
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Post by DAUnHolyKnight on May 6, 2014 23:17:26 GMT -5
I agree with you Kal making sure everyone knows that we are the big fish is crucial and to me in order to achieve this we may need to be ruthless in our actions. We can't be some merciful organisation that offers peace to those that surrender. We will need to send a message to everyone who may oppose us and our goals, and the only way to do that is to leave no survivors. Maybe we will have a UEE news where we can broadcast executions to the followers of the UEE.
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Post by iostream on May 7, 2014 13:12:11 GMT -5
A pirate capital ship, I like it! But I would also like the red dragons to have their own smaller carrier or frigates. sort of like our own mobile base of operations while we explore the galaxies.
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Post by rexregis on May 7, 2014 15:07:43 GMT -5
A pirate capital ship, I like it! But I would also like the red dragons to have their own smaller carrier or frigates. sort of like our own mobile base of operations while we explore the galaxies. Ya I would like us to grab like a escort carrier |
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Post by gingerfluff on May 7, 2014 17:13:23 GMT -5
Sorta related, I found a map (that is the most updated version I've seen so far) that has a lot of good information on it. Take a look, and help plot some routes.  starcitizen.mojoworld.com/StarMap/# |
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Post by spikespiegel on May 15, 2014 11:39:20 GMT -5
I need the DFM ... I cant wait any longer DX
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Post by rexregis on May 15, 2014 15:06:52 GMT -5
ya i am right there with you spike
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Post by iostream on May 15, 2014 15:47:17 GMT -5
I just know it will come out next week or the week after that. I know because it's the worst possible time. My parents will be in town ><
Still I am going to sneak in a good couple of hours here and there
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Post by rexregis on May 16, 2014 7:18:18 GMT -5
I think we might be getting the dfm relase date today in the weekly report
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Post by rexregis on May 16, 2014 22:48:02 GMT -5
release date is may 29 so far
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Post by spikespiegel on May 24, 2014 11:20:19 GMT -5
5 days now!
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Post by Poop Killer on May 25, 2014 0:31:46 GMT -5
About the Bengal carrier... yes, I think we should assist in capturing one. what do we have to loose? Loose the fight during capture? well our ships should be insured. It will still be fun to try. We might not be able to benefit as much due to the galaxy being pretty vast and different pirate organizations will probably operate far away from each other. Like for example if we usually operate in an area that is maybe an hour or a few hours literally from the Bengal and it is constantly getting attacked. It might start being more of a burden to have to keep defending it. But like I said, it would not hurt us to help. And like Kal said we need to make sure we have a say on where that carrier goes. In the mean time, I love iostream's idea. We need our own mobile base. Maybe not a carrier yet. But something that makes others look at us in fear. Would be cool show our fleet strength when we travel, not just to intimidate but so they say; I want to be with those guys!
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Post by rexregis on May 28, 2014 20:50:41 GMT -5
the dfm has been delayed
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Post by Poop Killer on Nov 3, 2014 23:32:50 GMT -5
Has anyone thought of getting a redeemer? It would be very useful for boarding medium to large ships. The cutlass might have a hard time outnumbering a ship with more crew than itself. Even if we fly in a pack, only one ship can attach and board our target while the rest of us wait with fingers crossed. We can have several cutlass ships attack one big ship with distortion cannons. Once disabled the redeemer boards with 10 crew instead of 2 or 4. The less risk the better.
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Post by MVA on Nov 8, 2014 8:36:14 GMT -5
Yeah I agree we should add a Redeemer to the fleet. I think deep space fighters blacked up by a Cutlass / Redeemer wing would be a force that would well suit our planned ops.
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Post by . on May 11, 2015 19:36:37 GMT -5
Any thoughts to making this thread a restricted thread or moving thread to members only section, so tactics/routes/plans are not given to guests from opposing groups prowling forums.
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Post by rexregis on May 11, 2015 21:30:28 GMT -5
ya we plan on setting that up when the need arises
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Post by Poop Killer on May 14, 2015 17:07:49 GMT -5
I hope we get a members only section too. I like discussing tactics. I know we are mainly just brainstorming here, but we might be giving out ideas to others. I know there are always guests that are looking at our forums. Also I have done my fair share of looking at what other Orgs are talking about in their forums. Most have their private sections that I don't have access to.
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